How would you make 50,000 gold?

On Oct 5, 11:29 am, Babe Bridou wrote:
> On 5 oct, 17:20, lcpltom wrote:
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> > On Oct 5, 11:04 am, Babe Bridou wrote:
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> > > On 5 oct, 16:31, "Devast8or" wrote:
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> > > > If money is the goal, make sure you stay away from SMV an Netherstorm before
> > > > you hit 70. I did that on my rogue and I ws raking in the cash when I went
> > > > to those two zones (even had a bunch of quests left in BEM when I hit 70 as
> > > > well).
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> > > Aye, I did that, I did even better on my hunter: I stopped questing at
> > > 68, and grinded my way to 70. Then I focused on levelling other
> > > characters, questing "just to make money" is not exactly fun.
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> > > > As for the order, give epic flying mount to the characters with herbalism or
> > > > mining first. It makes it a lot easier to farm flowes and ores. (I lent 800g
> > > > to a guildie for his epic flyer, he was able to pay me back 2-3 days later)
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> > > My rogue Murray seems like the ideal 300 flier then, it's a true
> > > landslide
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> > Questing is the best way to make money. At level 70, most quests
> > award at least 10g or more. Group quests then to offer a little more,
> > and I have turned in dungeon quests at 70 for over 20g (and some of
> > these dungeon quests have long solo/group chains leading up to them,
> > so if you want something like the Arcatraz key, you need to do these
> > quests).
>
> > Also, the items recieved as quest rewards can be DE'd, sold to a
> > vendor, or used as a replacement for older gear. Some of these quest
> > rewards are really good too if you don't run isntances much.
>
> > Also keep in mind that when questing you are usually killing mobs that
> > drop small ammounts of cash, cloth, gear, and vendor trash. Also
> > keeping your herb/mining tracking radar on while doing these quests
> > brings in more cash in the mats you collect. If your goal is to get
> > everyone to 300 riding skill, questing for gold is going to be your
> > most efficient way of doing this.
>
> > Also keep in mind that questing at level 70 with even 225 riding skill
> > is a breeze. If the point of a quest is to kill named mob X, who
> > happens to be in the back of this little sub-zone full of other mobs,
> > instead of this quest taking you 20 minutes of fighting to the guy,
> > you mount, fly over all the trash, kill the 1 named mob you need,
> > remount and fly away with a completed quest. Also zones like BEM and
> > Netherstorm that are dificult to navigate on the ground are trivial
> > when you are flying, making questing in those zones much easier.
>
> That's all very true - that said, does anyone have a rough estimate of
> the amount of questing cash there is to make in NS & SM, assuming 70
> is reached before entering there?
> There's only a limited supply, I know that because I burnt it all in
> raid consumables on my priest, before the dailies :S
>
> > I decided to set another goal over getting 300 riding skill. I
> > decided to focus more on getting my warlock as well geared as I could
> > without raiding. 300 riding skill can wait. Getting the gear takes a
> > lot of time or money or both. So I spend all my money on mats and
> > enchants rather than saving for a flying mount.
>
> Don't do it! I made the same mistake on my priest, and spent all my
> questing gold on "something that wasn't 300 riding skill" (in my case,
> in raid consumables before the nerfs and fixes of 2.1). The character
> has, ever since, become a financial liability.- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

See, I know that 300 riding skill will come eventually for me. Maybe
not until level 80, who knows. But for the time being I like grouping
and dungeons and want to max out my potential in those, and I don't
need a flying mount for dungeons other than getting into tempest keep
instances, and even then the 300 riding skill doesn't make much of a
difference there.

Chances are also good for a reduction in the cost of the 300 riding
skill with the next expansion, much like the reduction of the 150
riding skill. Blizzard has stated they plan to disable flying mounts
in Northrend until you reach a specific level. The most obvious way
of them implementing this is through a new rank of riding skill, 375
or 450. In that case, to even be able to ride the slower flying
mounts you would need to get the 300 skill, then the 375 skill.
Blizzard lowered the 150 skill to change it from something end game
players worked hard to achieve to something more of a progression of
skill increases, and made 300 skill the new end game riding
acheivement. Expect something similar to happen in the expansion.
Maybe faster mounts at a skill of 450 Or maybe even the most coveted
(though I really don't understand why) of wanted flying abilities, the
ability to fly over the original game content in Azeroth.
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1. Always farm mobs that drop multiple cash goodies (such as blood
elves who drop cloth and tomes).

2. Always do your daily quests (there's 110g/day X number of
characters right there).

3. Check your auction house and see which level 70 trade goods are
selling for the largest markup over their vendor price. This is a good
indication of their supply vs demand.

4. Seek out and finish all of your level 70 quests. ALL of them.
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You should probably have grouped up the gathering skills, so that the
character you each enjoy playing the most has 2 gathering professions,
say skinning and mining or skinning and herbalism (so you don't need
to switch scanners) that way you are getting up to twice the gathering
time. You could do herbs and mining if you had Gatherer to tell you
where the nodes are likely to be. Then you just send the mats to the
leather/alchemy or leather/engineering character, or sell the excess
mats. I only have one toon at 70 so I haven't done this, but if I had
the time and inclination to get two characters to 70 then I would
definitely do this. If you have invested in all your characters'
professions already then you will take a big hit in the re-training
costs though.

Phil.
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....although I see you have 1 character with 2 gathering skills, so
you're on a reasonable start there. Mining & herb, though, must be
annoying to switch.

Phil.
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On 5 oct, 15:39, PhilHibbs wrote:
> ...although I see you have 1 character with 2 gathering skills, so
> you're on a reasonable start there. Mining & herb, though, must be
> annoying to switch.
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> Phil.

We actually have two such characters, a 70 hunter (herb/skin) and a 61
rogue (herb/mine). But levelling professions is not the objective here
- apart from getting the second enchanter in the 330-350 (should be
easy, it's a blood elf).

You got it right though, I'd rather play a lower level character than
a 70er anyway at the moment. 70s are used in battlegrounds, arenas, or
for the occasional boost/craft.

I'm using Cartographer, so my rogue (miner/herb) benefits from all the
nodes the priest (miner/eng) and hunter (herb/skin) managed to grab
along their way to 70. I usually keep mine detection up, and never
actively hunt mines nor herbs for the time being - still both skills
are in the 350s, and every thing goes up the auction house either as
gems (from fel iron prospection), motes (life, fire, earth), herbs, or
ore (adamantite).

The real question would be, when to buy the 150 riding on the 61
hunter and the 62 warrior, when to buy the 225 riding on the 70 hunter
(has done no quest since level 68, I actually grinded the last two
levels), and who to give the first epic flier.

You're suggesting the rogue for the first 300 flier, that's my opinion
as well. But before or after getting everyone else to 225?
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On Oct 5, 11:27 am, "Mr Murloc" wrote:

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> Rogues or druid could stealth instances for ancient lichen (instance only
> herb), sanguine hibiscus and other herbs.
>

Ancient Lichen are also obtainable from "skinning" bog lords/giants,
although certainly with a low drop rate.
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On 5 oct, 16:42, Urs Steiner wrote:
> AFAIK the marker for the blue jewels is going down atm.
> Has to do with more guilds in BT who get their epic gems I think.
>

I believe there will always be a demand for blue jewels, especially
with the upcoming Season3 gladiator gear.

> On the other hand, prospecting (and mining too) seems to give less blue
> gems since 2.1.x or so, making it often not profitable to prospect
> except if you really need something.
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So far I already got three blue gems from prospecting about half the
fel iron I mined since I entered Outlands on my rogue, at 58. Blue
gems sell for the gold equivalent of 50 fel iron ores on my server.
(20 fel iron = between 10g and 15g, 20 adamantite = between 20g and
30g, blue gems = between 25g and 40g)

> On my new server, 20 adamantite go for an easy 40g, with the highest
> priced gems at ~70g. Meaning for 40 ada you get at least a certain gem.
>

My server is old, but horde is still stuck on Kael'thas.

> > Question 2: suggest me in what order you would spend the gold in
> > riding skills, assuming EVERYONE needs 300 in the end, please
>
> first dds with gathering skills, then gatherers, then dds, then rest
> (although you might swap pos 2&3).
> Although seeing you have still chars at 75 riding, get them 150 first
> and then start with epic flying.

Should I buy the 125 skill right now, to speed up their own levelling
and gathering?

> Consider the druid has free 225 flying and doesn't need a mount but
> rather can do his epic flying quest if you leveled him with looking to
> the correct repuation (or push him hard through SL 3 times or so).
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We usually don't do instances, but we'll probably have a go at three-
manning hellfire/zangar instances in the near future.
Only when we're alone online do we accept a pug instance run; we
prefer human enemies That said, I thought you needed 300 flying to
start the epic flight form quest?

> For every 70 who can fly already, consider the dailiy quests. Consider
> also that many of these quests can be done in a group (all killing,
> bombing, escort, booterang, etc)!
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> And when you have pushed the first char to 300, go do Netherwing quests.
> With the dual gathering I advise he should be able to complete daily
> quests there pretty fast.

I hate daily quests with a vengeance. It's worse than grinding, and
whenever I want to do one it takes up roughly half of my daily playing
time. Maybe when I have 300 riding I'll consider doing them. But so
far to me they are nothing but a waste of XP, honor, arena points, and
fun.
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On 5 oct, 16:31, "Devast8or" wrote:

> If money is the goal, make sure you stay away from SMV an Netherstorm before
> you hit 70. I did that on my rogue and I ws raking in the cash when I went
> to those two zones (even had a bunch of quests left in BEM when I hit 70 as
> well).
>

Aye, I did that, I did even better on my hunter: I stopped questing at
68, and grinded my way to 70. Then I focused on levelling other
characters, questing "just to make money" is not exactly fun.

> As for the order, give epic flying mount to the characters with herbalism or
> mining first. It makes it a lot easier to farm flowes and ores. (I lent 800g
> to a guildie for his epic flyer, he was able to pay me back 2-3 days later)

My rogue Murray seems like the ideal 300 flier then, it's a true
landslide
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I think it was Babe Bridou that wrote
something like...

>Okay, another go at it! Our guild is made of three players, and we're
>currently focusing on getting our outlanders to 70 while knocking out
>the alliance in the process. As a very real objective, we're also
>working on filling the team with epic fliers.
>
>Here's the roster:
>70 priest mining/engineering (225 riding)
>70 hunter tailor/enchant (225 riding)
>70 hunter herb/skin (150 riding
>70 rogue herb/alch (225 riding)
>66 druid skin/leather (150 riding)
>62 warrior blacksmith/eng (75 riding)
>61 rogue mining/herb (150 riding)
>61 hunter tailor/enchant (75 riding)

<snips>

>Question 2: suggest me in what order you would spend the gold in
>riding skills, assuming EVERYONE needs 300 in the end, please

I'd say get the 70 herb/skin hunter flying and doing Daily quest asap
to help supply your gold. Similar deal when the lower levels get high
enough to be able to start flying. Along with the daily's, being able
to fly in past mobs, do quest objectives then fly out and pick up a
20-25g reward is good. You'll run out of quests eventually, but
they'll get you a heck of long way towards 300 riding before they do.

I wouldn't bother getting your tailor/enchanter 300 riding any time
soon. The 61 rogue with herb/mining would be a nice choice for an
epic flyer if you felt up to spending time just flying around
gathering mat's to AH off. However, if you're up to doing the
Netherwing Daily's, getting a character doing them asap should be a
goal so you can theoretically increase your G/day rate. I believe
there are netherwing daily's that can be done quicker if you have
mining or herbalism or both, so which of the 70's to give the 300
riding skill to first would be a question of which one is most up to
solo grinding that has mining or herbalism. Though given the play
times you listed, you might make better money finishing off all the
normal quests you can with the 70's, then getting all the other
characters to 70 and finishing of all the quests you can find and only
*then* worrying about the daily's. The 6 non-netherwing dailies are
fairly simple and don't take all *that* long, but you can still be
looking up towards an hour to do them. I haven't timed myself though,
so who knows. You can save some time by working them together as a
party but even just the flight from Skettis to Ogri'la is going to
take a decent chunk of time out of a 2 hour play schedule. There's
just a fair amount of ground to cover.


While all 3 of you can log into any of the characters if you have to,
you'll probably want to make sure each of the accounts has 1 epic
flyer before adding a 2nd to the account. An idea that may not stun
many people with it's brilliance, but without knowing which characters
are on which accounts, it makes it somewhat harder to suggest an order
they should get 300 riding.
You'd also likely want to have your first 3 that get 300 riding be
classes that compliment each other in regards to doing group quests.
If you can have a dpsish tank, dpsish healer and dpsish dpser all with
epic flyers, then that would making polishing off unfinished quests
for profit and glory go that much smoother. (and quicker)


They're my thoughts anyway. And I've only got 1 70 that got his epic
flyer and is now spending a lot of him time near broke from splurging
in the AH. ; )
Ashen Shugar
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The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
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On 5 oct, 17:20, lcpltom wrote:
> On Oct 5, 11:04 am, Babe Bridou wrote:
>
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> > On 5 oct, 16:31, "Devast8or" wrote:
>
> > > If money is the goal, make sure you stay away from SMV an Netherstorm before
> > > you hit 70. I did that on my rogue and I ws raking in the cash when I went
> > > to those two zones (even had a bunch of quests left in BEM when I hit 70 as
> > > well).
>
> > Aye, I did that, I did even better on my hunter: I stopped questing at
> > 68, and grinded my way to 70. Then I focused on levelling other
> > characters, questing "just to make money" is not exactly fun.
>
> > > As for the order, give epic flying mount to the characters with herbalism or
> > > mining first. It makes it a lot easier to farm flowes and ores. (I lent 800g
> > > to a guildie for his epic flyer, he was able to pay me back 2-3 days later)
>
> > My rogue Murray seems like the ideal 300 flier then, it's a true
> > landslide
>
> Questing is the best way to make money. At level 70, most quests
> award at least 10g or more. Group quests then to offer a little more,
> and I have turned in dungeon quests at 70 for over 20g (and some of
> these dungeon quests have long solo/group chains leading up to them,
> so if you want something like the Arcatraz key, you need to do these
> quests).
>
> Also, the items recieved as quest rewards can be DE'd, sold to a
> vendor, or used as a replacement for older gear. Some of these quest
> rewards are really good too if you don't run isntances much.
>
> Also keep in mind that when questing you are usually killing mobs that
> drop small ammounts of cash, cloth, gear, and vendor trash. Also
> keeping your herb/mining tracking radar on while doing these quests
> brings in more cash in the mats you collect. If your goal is to get
> everyone to 300 riding skill, questing for gold is going to be your
> most efficient way of doing this.
>
> Also keep in mind that questing at level 70 with even 225 riding skill
> is a breeze. If the point of a quest is to kill named mob X, who
> happens to be in the back of this little sub-zone full of other mobs,
> instead of this quest taking you 20 minutes of fighting to the guy,
> you mount, fly over all the trash, kill the 1 named mob you need,
> remount and fly away with a completed quest. Also zones like BEM and
> Netherstorm that are dificult to navigate on the ground are trivial
> when you are flying, making questing in those zones much easier.
>

That's all very true - that said, does anyone have a rough estimate of
the amount of questing cash there is to make in NS & SM, assuming 70
is reached before entering there?
There's only a limited supply, I know that because I burnt it all in
raid consumables on my priest, before the dailies :S

> I decided to set another goal over getting 300 riding skill. I
> decided to focus more on getting my warlock as well geared as I could
> without raiding. 300 riding skill can wait. Getting the gear takes a
> lot of time or money or both. So I spend all my money on mats and
> enchants rather than saving for a flying mount.

Don't do it! I made the same mistake on my priest, and spent all my
questing gold on "something that wasn't 300 riding skill" (in my case,
in raid consumables before the nerfs and fixes of 2.1). The character
has, ever since, become a financial liability.
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On 5 Oct, 15:43, Babe Bridou wrote:
>
> The real question would be, when to buy the 150 riding on the 61
> hunter and the 62 warrior, when to buy the 225 riding on the 70 hunter
> (has done no quest since level 68, I actually grinded the last two
> levels), and who to give the first epic flier.
>
> You're suggesting the rogue for the first 300 flier, that's my opinion
> as well. But before or after getting everyone else to 225?

I don't think it makes a lot of difference - you will have to pay for
all the riding skills for all the characters eventually, and just
levelling up from 60 to 70 should net the 900 gold or so that it takes
to get a flying mount. Your first priority should be to get the hunter
herb/skinner to 225, and maybe also then to 300 riding, so he can fly
around Terrokar gathering cones, weed, glory, and motes. And the
occasional Fel Lotus, too. These are top sellers, and conveniently
close to Shattrath as well that you can just do a quick herbing run in
a few spare minutes.

I like my Riding Crop, but they can be expensive and are probably not
a worthwhile investment. There's a similar quest reward from the
Netherwing races, but you need 300 riding skill to start that chain
anyway.

Phil.
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On Oct 5, 8:22 am, Babe Bridou wrote:

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If you want to make money, and you stated that was your primary goal,
then gathering is how you're going to have to do it. Grind
gathering. Grind gathering while questing is even better. And
avoiding daily quests is giving away free money. I haven't done to
many of them myself because I've been concentrating on leveling up my
own Jewel Crafting, which has been a HUGE money sink. DO NOT level up
JC at all until you get your gold goal. You'll easily spend 1-3,000g
trying to get this skill to 375 between Mats and useful recipes once
you get that high.

My advice, Ignore ALL professions but gathering, and do nothing but
quest/daily quest/gather until you hit it. It will be boring as all
hell, but you'll get there.

You could also farm Motes on elemental plateau in the morning hours as
well when fewer folks are there. With your 70 hunters anyway.

A buddy of mine made almost 5k in a week or two doing that with his
mage.
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I think it was Babe Bridou that wrote
something like...

>> Also keep in mind that questing at level 70 with even 225 riding skill
>> is a breeze. If the point of a quest is to kill named mob X, who
>> happens to be in the back of this little sub-zone full of other mobs,
>> instead of this quest taking you 20 minutes of fighting to the guy,
>> you mount, fly over all the trash, kill the 1 named mob you need,
>> remount and fly away with a completed quest. Also zones like BEM and
>> Netherstorm that are dificult to navigate on the ground are trivial
>> when you are flying, making questing in those zones much easier.
>>
>
>That's all very true - that said, does anyone have a rough estimate of
>the amount of questing cash there is to make in NS & SM, assuming 70
>is reached before entering there?
>There's only a limited supply, I know that because I burnt it all in
>raid consumables on my priest, before the dailies :S

I probably made *very* roughly, 1000g from the BEM quests. Probably
up to another 3000g from the Netherstorm and SMV quests combined.

Looking on wowhead, there's 176 quests that have the quest giver in
Netherstorm. Most of them are for both alliance and horde though a
number of them are mid or end chain that began elsewhere. I saw a
kara quest chain passes through there. Some of them are going to be
part of chains where the quest is just to talk to the guy next to me,
so won't give much gold, but others would probably give up towards 20g
or more, so if we guess an average of 10g a quest if you're at level
70, that's 1,700g from that one zone.

Ashen Shugar
--
The lions sing and the hills take flight.
The moon by day, and the sun by night.
Blind woman, deaf man, jackdaw fool.
Let the Lord of Chaos rule!
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