Saying that I bought gold.. How rude!!

On Mar 10, 3:56 pm, m....TakeThisOut@askme.co.uk wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:43:44 +0100, "Shammy" wrote:
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> <snipped>
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> >Basically you are saying noone can give you any advice in no occasion else
> >you get mad. Ofc there is many ways to give advice but most people dont mean
> >anything bad by it. I like to be given advice as long as it's not pushing me
> >to do something against my will.
>
> >If someone sees something really wrong in your playstile, gear or talents
> >and where a change would make the game more enjoyable to you he cant say
> >anything to you?
> >No offence but you should be going around with a big sign "Dont give me
> >advice no matter how wrong I am doing something else I /leave immediatly"
>
> Many times I have been told what weapon combination to use by other
> players over the last year .... eg .. change to sword AND shield when
> we get to the Boss.
> I find it helpful to get advice from more experienced players. If I do
> not agree .. nooooo problem

Lol, you weren't trying to tank with a two hander were you?

Sorry mate, I never took a shield bearing class past level 22, but I
even I know that you tank with a shield.

So, you're not talking solo'ing here, you are with a party, you
_should_ know that...

Its like a hunter melee'ing, its big sign that you know absolutely
nothing about the class and the role...

Smid
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On Mar 11, 8:42 am, Smid wrote:
> On Mar 10, 3:56 pm, m... DeleteThis @askme.co.uk wrote:
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> > On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:43:44 +0100, "Shammy" wrote:
>
> > <snipped>
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> > >Basically you are saying noone can give you any advice in no occasion else
> > >you get mad. Ofc there is many ways to give advice but most people dont mean
> > >anything bad by it. I like to be given advice as long as it's not pushing me
> > >to do something against my will.
>
> > >If someone sees something really wrong in your playstile, gear or talents
> > >and where a change would make the game more enjoyable to you he cant say
> > >anything to you?
> > >No offence but you should be going around with a big sign "Dont give me
> > >advice no matter how wrong I am doing something else I /leave immediatly"
>
> > Many times I have been told what weapon combination to use by other
> > players over the last year .... eg .. change to sword AND shield when
> > we get to the Boss.
> > I find it helpful to get advice from more experienced players. If I do
> > not agree .. nooooo problem
>
> Lol, you weren't trying to tank with a two hander were you?
>
> Sorry mate, I never took a shield bearing class past level 22, but I
> even I know that you tank with a shield.
>
> So, you're not talking solo'ing here, you are with a party, you
> _should_ know that...
>
> Its like a hunter melee'ing, its big sign that you know absolutely
> nothing about the class and the role...
>
> Smid

I've seen tanks go without a shield and do it successfully. The guild
leader of an old guild I was in was a troll warrior in T4/5 gear that
tanked scholo dual-wielding swords instead of having a shield. Did it
without any wipes too. We only went as far as Ras Frostwhisper, as
this run was part of my dreadsteed questline.

Melee hunter can also be done. Its hard to do but there are a few
hunters out there who have done it successfully. Granted the
strengths of the class are in ranged/pet combat, but melee is an
option for a properly geared and specced hunter.

Now, a warlock, mage, or priest using melee attacks, thats a bit of a
problem there. Even by stacking strength and agility gear, there are
no special class spells or abilities that lets those classes do melee
combat. I did once encounter a "hybrid" warlock who stacked strength
and agility cloth that he found. There can't be a lot of these kind
of items out there though, so I have no idea how far this warlock
eventually got. Its obvious he was doing it on purpose too.
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On Mar 11, 9:37 am, "Shammy" wrote:
> l> I've seen tanks go without a shield and do it successfully. The
> l> guild leader of an old guild I was in was a troll warrior in T4/5
> l> gear that tanked scholo dual-wielding swords instead of having a
> l> shield. Did it without any wipes too. We only went as far as Ras
> l> Frostwhisper, as this run was part of my dreadsteed questline.
>
> If you are seriously overgeared you can do many things but if you have
> normal gear for the instance it's not possible.
>
> l> Melee hunter can also be done. Its hard to do but there are a few
> l> hunters out there who have done it successfully. Granted the
> l> strengths of the class are in ranged/pet combat, but melee is an
> l> option for a properly geared and specced hunter.
>
> Done it succesfully? You mean he could do nearly same as other dps classes
> specced right with the right gear?
> Honestly I dont think he would be able to outdps my feral druid in full
> tanking gear in bear form...

That I don't know about, I just know it has been done, and I have seen
screenshots of this level 70 hunter with 1/350 in bows/guns/crossbows.
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On Mar 11, 1:03 pm, lcpltom wrote:
> On Mar 11, 8:42 am, Smid wrote:
>
>
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> > On Mar 10, 3:56 pm, m... DeleteThis @askme.co.uk wrote:
>
> > > On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:43:44 +0100, "Shammy" wrote:
>
> > > <snipped>
>
> > > >Basically you are saying noone can give you any advice in no occasion else
> > > >you get mad. Ofc there is many ways to give advice but most people dont mean
> > > >anything bad by it. I like to be given advice as long as it's not pushing me
> > > >to do something against my will.
>
> > > >If someone sees something really wrong in your playstile, gear or talents
> > > >and where a change would make the game more enjoyable to you he cant say
> > > >anything to you?
> > > >No offence but you should be going around with a big sign "Dont give me
> > > >advice no matter how wrong I am doing something else I /leave immediatly"
>
> > > Many times I have been told what weapon combination to use by other
> > > players over the last year .... eg .. change to sword AND shield when
> > > we get to the Boss.
> > > I find it helpful to get advice from more experienced players. If I do
> > > not agree .. nooooo problem
>
> > Lol, you weren't trying to tank with a two hander were you?
>
> > Sorry mate, I never took a shield bearing class past level 22, but I
> > even I know that you tank with a shield.
>
> > So, you're not talking solo'ing here, you are with a party, you
> > _should_ know that...
>
> > Its like a hunter melee'ing, its big sign that you know absolutely
> > nothing about the class and the role...
>
> > Smid
>
> I've seen tanks go without a shield and do it successfully. The guild
> leader of an old guild I was in was a troll warrior in T4/5 gear that
> tanked scholo dual-wielding swords instead of having a shield. Did it
> without any wipes too. We only went as far as Ras Frostwhisper, as
> this run was part of my dreadsteed questline.

I stood and watched a well druid bear tank Underbog with virtually no
heals. I dps'ed in the end, because my shadow priest was better use
there.

Last normal Black Morass, a different druid bear tank tanked in his
dps gear because he was so overgeared that he dodge all the hits and
couldn't get rage...

I'm sure he could have tried tanking it in cat form, but it wouldn't
be right... Bit like throwing away a third of your armor when
tanking

> Melee hunter can also be done. Its hard to do but there are a few
> hunters out there who have done it successfully. Granted the
> strengths of the class are in ranged/pet combat, but melee is an
> option for a properly geared and specced hunter.

Yeah, they can do it, its not the point, its playing a hunter like an
enhancement shaman/mail yielding rogue... You'd tend to get kicked
from an instance for that...

Fine if they are solo, they can do what they want...

Smid
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On Mar 10, 1:29 pm, "Xymmie" wrote:
> "gerryq" wrote in message
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> On Mar 10, 1:59 am, "Xymmie" wrote:
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> > "gerryq" wrote in message
> > > I was clearing an old quest line in Hellfire Peninsula with my hunter A
> > > L61
> > > hunter asked me if I'd help him -- with the very quest I was on. Sure, I
> > > said, I happen to be working on that myself!
>
> > > After killing 2 mobs, he whispered "lol my gun is better than ur bow "
> > Either way, his comment seems totally harmless and natural. In fact,
> > it sounds to me like an inverted compliment saying "thanks for coming
> > along to help me". Pity you took it so wrong.
> > I didn't even notice whether he got in better hits. I assumed, perhaps
> > incorrectly, that he'd inspected me and my gear. He asked me for help. I
> > didn't need his.
>
> > He had a gun, not a bow, but I'm not so sure I took his comment wrong.
> > <shrug>
>
> Well, we'll never know.  I think you did.
>
> I misunderstood an unnecessary "mine's bigger than yours" comment?  I doubt
> it.  He may not have meant it as one-upmanship, but it added nothing to the
> quest.  Had it been a "you do this, then I'll do that" remark, it would have
> struck me differently.
>
> I used to golf.  I wasn't a good golfer, but I liked the walk and the time
> away from routine.  I hated it when people who would watch me tee off --  
> often strangers or vague acquaintances -- would walk up to me and offer
> advice on how to hold my club, correct my swing, better my stance.  It
> wasn't enjoyable when that happened.  I wasn't playing with/against anyone,
> I was just out for the exercise and fresh air.

And we can pursue this analogy. Suppose a pro golfer happened to be
doing a round with you, and you scored a hole in one. Would the pro
be offended if you danced around saying "W00t! I beat you on this
hole!"?

That seems quite like the scenario with the low-level hunter. As I
said, it reads to me like an inverted compliment, or at least intended
as such!

- Gerry Quinn
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"lcpltom" wrote in message


> Melee hunter can also be done. Its hard to do but there are a few
> hunters out there who have done it successfully. Granted the
> strengths of the class are in ranged/pet combat, but melee is an
> option for a properly geared and specced hunter.

Heh. I've been meleeing a lot lately, on single mobs, trying to get that
last skill point in polearms. Geeeeeeeeeeez, how many hits does it take to
top it off, anyway? I've been at 349/350 for days, now.

Xymmie
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On Mar 9, 6:43 am, Tigero wrote:
> Greetings,
>
>  Last night I was mining around Nagrand with my hunter when I decided
> to restock with Hallani Bullets (or something)... Halaa was taken by
> alliance and all guards down so I decided to hop on my epic flyer and
> go straight to Halaa.
>
> There were some fellow hordes there and while I was on the ground
> waiting for capture one guy says (Hey where did you buy gold for your
> epic flying mount.. give me the link).. I was shocked... I said (I
> never ever buy gold... I earned every copper I have)... he was
> mumbling a bit not believing that it is possible to get 6000g by
> yourself... (Being a fool at gold management is your problem but
> accusing me of cheating is plain rude.. so please zip the hole on your
> face before i get rude). I said
>
> He didn't say a word after that... the others however were polite
> enough to ask me how I managed to save... I was glad to tell them how
> I managed to gather up all that gold until we got Halaa and I got the
> bullets then left the scene...
>
> What I like about myself that even when I am angry I tend to choose my
> words carefully and never ever curse or use some "F" combinations.
>
> Anyone being rude with you like this?
>
> Nemra 70 Blood Elf Hunter Grim Batol EU
> Tigero, 70 Human Rogue Daggerspine EU
> Timekeeper 70 Human Warlock, Outland EU

I cheated. I had 3 70s and with my hunter I think I got to 70 by
killing and farming alone and did maybe 10 Outland quests. Once I hit
70 I did hte rest of the quests and got 5 K gold in no time then moved
to nether wing and farmed 10 K gold for my other 2 70s.

Guess what? I'm sick of farming. heh!

Now the gold just comes and adds up from transmutes and AH sales of
bars and primals and herbs and by the time I have another 70 I can
pretty much bet that I will have mroe than enough gold to get that one
an epic - and the next and the next.

Congrats on your hard work and I want to add that since I had my epic
the only place I pay for flying is in the old world.

Keep up the great play.

Orion
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"gerryq" wrote in message


And we can pursue this analogy. Suppose a pro golfer happened to be
doing a round with you, and you scored a hole in one. Would the pro
be offended if you danced around saying "W00t! I beat you on this
hole!"?
- - - - - -

Two things wrong with this. 1) *I* would never be doing a round with a pro
golfer and 2) *I* would never dance around saying, "I beat you on this
hole!" I would be jumping up and down, alone, saying "I got a hole in one!
I got a hole in one!"

- - - - - -

That seems quite like the scenario with the low-level hunter. As I
said, it reads to me like an inverted compliment, or at least intended
as such!

- - - - - -

Lousy way to give a compliment. He needs to work on his social skills.

Xymmie
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On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 08:25:50 -0500, "Xymmie" wrote:

>
>"lcpltom" wrote in message
>
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>> Melee hunter can also be done. Its hard to do but there are a few
>> hunters out there who have done it successfully. Granted the
>> strengths of the class are in ranged/pet combat, but melee is an
>> option for a properly geared and specced hunter.
>
>Heh. I've been meleeing a lot lately, on single mobs, trying to get that
>last skill point in polearms. Geeeeeeeeeeez, how many hits does it take to
>top it off, anyway? I've been at 349/350 for days, now.

Hehe my hunter's been stuck there for months! Granted I don't play him
much, but whenever I do I'm meleeing away, and no skillup, bah
--
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Naomh - Draenei Priest (lvl 70)
Rosad - Human Warlock (lvl 70)
Sealgair - Dwarf Hunter (lvl 70)
Sagart - Undead Priest (lvl 70)
Eilnich - Blood Elf Warlock (lvl 67)
Beag - Dwarf Paladin (lvl 60)
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l> I've seen tanks go without a shield and do it successfully. The
l> guild leader of an old guild I was in was a troll warrior in T4/5
l> gear that tanked scholo dual-wielding swords instead of having a
l> shield. Did it without any wipes too. We only went as far as Ras
l> Frostwhisper, as this run was part of my dreadsteed questline.

If you are seriously overgeared you can do many things but if you have
normal gear for the instance it's not possible.

l> Melee hunter can also be done. Its hard to do but there are a few
l> hunters out there who have done it successfully. Granted the
l> strengths of the class are in ranged/pet combat, but melee is an
l> option for a properly geared and specced hunter.

Done it succesfully? You mean he could do nearly same as other dps classes
specced right with the right gear?
Honestly I dont think he would be able to outdps my feral druid in full
tanking gear in bear form...
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