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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 8:09 am
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:40 am
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I told you not to open it. But you just had to, didn't you?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:01 am
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"Jobbles" wrote in message

>I told you not to open it. But you just had to, didn't you?
>

what does it say, I have my eyes closed.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:50 pm
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So what they're saying is this:
DON't buy gold but DO buy a gold making guide

Doesn't it come down to the same thing in the end? Paying real money
to obtain virtual money.

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ArachnoHog

"Robert" wrote in message

>
> "Jobbles" wrote in message
>
>>I told you not to open it. But you just had to, didn't you?
>>
>
> what does it say, I have my eyes closed.
>
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djarvinen

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:01 pm
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On Jul 2, 2:49 pm, "Jobbles" wrote:
> "Spider Pig" wrote...
> > So what they're saying is this:
> > DON't buy gold but DO buy a gold making guide
>
> > Doesn't it come down to the same thing in the end?  Paying real money
> > to obtain virtual money.
>
> It's stupid, considering most of their 'tricks' (get Auctioneer, learn to
> farm) are pretty much available for free on almost any WoW site.
>
> I'm constantly telling people how easy it is to get gold, when they start
> begging in the middle of Stormwind.  I follow my own policies and can get a
> character his starting mount money quite easily before ever leaving Elwynn
> Forest.  Now, this makes it sound like I'm doing it all in four hours.... I'm
> not.  I'm staying in Elwynn for DAYS, mining copper and smelting it and
> selling it on AH for 2-4g per stack.  I can usually mine 10 stacks a day
> before I get so terminally bored that I go play something else for a while
> (meaning something completely unlike WoW, like Civ 4 or ET:QW).  That's
> 20-40g per day, depending on AH prices.  So it takes me a week of mining to
> earn 100 gold.
>
> It's that simple, but it _is_ time-consuming.
>
> Of course since you're wandering around Elwynn you can also collect VT for
> some copper, starting Cooking mats for selling on AH (usually sell for 50s
> per stack of 10 for Chunks of Boar Meat and Stringy Wolf Meat), and linen
> cloth dropped from the kobolds (sell for 10-20s per stack, assuming you've
> used all you want for First Aid and/or Tailoring).  And of course copper
> deposits occasionally drop gems as well, more pure profit.
>
> And you could also supplement this with Herbalism, but starting Herbalism
> mats don't sell for much.  The time required for gathering a stack, and the
> comparative value between a stack of Peacebloom or Silverleaf compared to a
> stack of Copper Ore/Bars means it's worth more just to keep running around
> mining than picking flowers.
>
> So my starting advice to people who beg, or otherwise need cash, is:
>
> 1) Be prepared to spend lots of time on this game.
> 2) Spend 2 silver on 2 things: picking up Mining as a profession, and a
> Mining Pick.
> 2a) If you don't have 2 silver, go back to the starting zones and kill
> beasts and pick up teeth and hides and claws and sell them until you have 2
> silver.
> 3) Either get Auctioneer, or study the Auction House to figure out the
> average price of copper ore/bars.
> 3a) Bars sell better than Ore.
> 4) Go quest for a while.  When you see a copper deposit nearby, mine it..
> It'll stack up.  Quest until you hit 10th-12th level, at which time you can
> handle almost anything the starting zone can throw at you.
> 5) Go mine.  Find out where the deposits are.  Usually this can be done in a
> circuit of the zone.  (Gatherer is good for this but not absolutely
> necessary.)
> 6) When your bag is full come back and sell.
> 6a) Use the first load to buy MORE BAGS.  10-slots if you can afford them.
> (Hell, go for 16-slot bags if you can, you will thank yourself many many
> times later.)


Good advice, thanks. But you should definitely check the AH for Bar
prices vs Ore prices. Sometimes you can find those weird anomalies
where Ore sells better, strangely enough. Not sure why; perhaps
because some players can use the ore to level up as well as use as
mats.

And by the way... where can I pick up some cheap 16-slot bags? Smile
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 4:49 pm
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"Spider Pig" wrote...

> So what they're saying is this:
> DON't buy gold but DO buy a gold making guide
>
> Doesn't it come down to the same thing in the end? Paying real money
> to obtain virtual money.

It's stupid, considering most of their 'tricks' (get Auctioneer, learn to
farm) are pretty much available for free on almost any WoW site.

I'm constantly telling people how easy it is to get gold, when they start
begging in the middle of Stormwind. I follow my own policies and can get a
character his starting mount money quite easily before ever leaving Elwynn
Forest. Now, this makes it sound like I'm doing it all in four hours... I'm
not. I'm staying in Elwynn for DAYS, mining copper and smelting it and
selling it on AH for 2-4g per stack. I can usually mine 10 stacks a day
before I get so terminally bored that I go play something else for a while
(meaning something completely unlike WoW, like Civ 4 or ET:QW). That's
20-40g per day, depending on AH prices. So it takes me a week of mining to
earn 100 gold.

It's that simple, but it _is_ time-consuming.

Of course since you're wandering around Elwynn you can also collect VT for
some copper, starting Cooking mats for selling on AH (usually sell for 50s
per stack of 10 for Chunks of Boar Meat and Stringy Wolf Meat), and linen
cloth dropped from the kobolds (sell for 10-20s per stack, assuming you've
used all you want for First Aid and/or Tailoring). And of course copper
deposits occasionally drop gems as well, more pure profit.

And you could also supplement this with Herbalism, but starting Herbalism
mats don't sell for much. The time required for gathering a stack, and the
comparative value between a stack of Peacebloom or Silverleaf compared to a
stack of Copper Ore/Bars means it's worth more just to keep running around
mining than picking flowers.

So my starting advice to people who beg, or otherwise need cash, is:

1) Be prepared to spend lots of time on this game.
2) Spend 2 silver on 2 things: picking up Mining as a profession, and a
Mining Pick.
2a) If you don't have 2 silver, go back to the starting zones and kill
beasts and pick up teeth and hides and claws and sell them until you have 2
silver.
3) Either get Auctioneer, or study the Auction House to figure out the
average price of copper ore/bars.
3a) Bars sell better than Ore.
4) Go quest for a while. When you see a copper deposit nearby, mine it.
It'll stack up. Quest until you hit 10th-12th level, at which time you can
handle almost anything the starting zone can throw at you.
5) Go mine. Find out where the deposits are. Usually this can be done in a
circuit of the zone. (Gatherer is good for this but not absolutely
necessary.)
6) When your bag is full come back and sell.
6a) Use the first load to buy MORE BAGS. 10-slots if you can afford them.
(Hell, go for 16-slot bags if you can, you will thank yourself many many
times later.)

Repeat steps 5-6 as needed. Yes, it's boring; yes, it's time-consuming. It
works; don't knock it. It's made me tons of money. And later on the same
thing can be applied to other zones, for more money.

This is assuming you start in a normal zone, like Dun Morogh, Elwynn Forest,
Mulgore, Silverpine Forest, Eversong Woods, Azuremyst Isles or Durotar.
Note the one zone that this doesn't apply to: Teldrassil. There's no ore
deposits in Teldrassil. Instead, you replace Mining with Herbalism, because
you have no real choice. However, Teldrassil has TONS of Herbalism nodes,
and has all the level 1-75 Alchemy mats, Peacebloom, Silverleaf, Earthroot,
and Mageroyal.

Skinning can also be used to supplement the above, but only really works in
Dun Morogh, Teldrassil and Mulgore, where the majority of wandering mobs are
skinnable Beasts. With Teldrassil and Mulgore, you can't skin owls or
vultures, so it's less effective than you'd think. It's worth more to you
to keep moving to the next copper deposit than taking the time to skin the
critter that just tried to eat you.

Of course at higher level zones, Herbalism and Skinning start making serious
profit, but for a starting character or a complete newbie, Mining is the way
to go.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 6:53 pm
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wrote...

> Good advice, thanks. But you should definitely check the AH for Bar
> prices vs Ore prices. Sometimes you can find those weird anomalies
> where Ore sells better, strangely enough. Not sure why; perhaps
> because some players can use the ore to level up as well as use as
> mats.

In general, copper bars sell better than copper ores, because the
high-levels who are now just picking up
Engineering/Blacksmithing/Jewelcrafting no longer have Mining to smelt the
bars themselves. The folks who are buying ore for levelling up Mining or
for prospecting aren't as high level and don't tend to spend as much.

Also, AH prices don't list what items sell for, only what people are
charging for. I've seen stacks of copper get listed as high as 10g per
stack. I have no idea if this is what they sold for. I still listed mine
at 2g per stack and sold them and I was happy with that.

It's possible the guy who was listing the 10g stacks bought mine and
relisted them at 10g, but it's more likely that his didn't sell and he was
out the auction fee.

> And by the way... where can I pick up some cheap 16-slot bags? Smile

Get Netherweave bags, they tend to sell for 5-6g apiece on most servers I've
been on. Not cheap, but they'll pay for themselves. Even when you can find
cheap Runecloth bags (14-slots), the Netherweave are still better in the
long run.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 9:57 pm
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wrote:

> Good advice, thanks. But you should definitely check the AH for Bar
> prices vs Ore prices. Sometimes you can find those weird anomalies
> where Ore sells better, strangely enough. Not sure why; perhaps
> because some players can use the ore to level up as well as use as
> mats.

True, plus jewelers can prospect for gems on raw ore.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:46 pm
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Jobbles wrote:

> It's that simple, but it _is_ time-consuming.

I make 100-500g per week with about an hour's work per night by using my
level 35 rogue enchanter.

I just park him outside AH, and let him buy all green stuff that is
selling for less than the dust would sell for. Disenchant, ship off the
'Dustseller' (my dust specializing banker) and sell it for a profit.

I have 5 active toons in their mid 40's at the moment. When my gold
drops below 5,000 I put my enchanter in action again. Takes 2 or 3
weeks to get over 6000 again (bad weeks may only yield 100g, while I had
one week that yielded over 1000). I then let the system 'rest' until I
decide I want money again.

--
- Burt Johnson
MindStorm, Inc.
http://www.mindstorm-inc.com/software.html
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:46 pm
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wrote:

>
> And by the way... where can I pick up some cheap 16-slot bags? Smile

I just buy them in AH. All my alts have a full set of them. I pay
anywhere from 5g for soul-locked ones to 25g for unlocked ones.

Gold is easy enough to come by that i don't worry about the price much.
Having full sets of 16 slot bags makes adventuring a lot easier, and it
will repay whatever you end up paying.

--
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 9:31 pm
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Jobbles skrev:

> It's stupid, considering most of their 'tricks' (get Auctioneer, learn to
> farm) are pretty much available for free on almost any WoW site.

Their 'tricks' are even worse. At least those I have seen. I read two
pay-gold guides so far. They were the most praised of them all as far as
I could tell over at the guides forum at the US Blizzard site.

Of their Auctioneer tricks, none of them even made a mention of BtmScan.
They all used the ageing "Search" function which was popular before TBC
was released.

One of the guides had a lot of grinding spots. Unfortunately most of the
spots in the 200+ page guide were spots that were profitable BEFORE TBC.
If you are new to the game and can't easily discern a good spot from a
bad spot you will be wasting a lot of time with these guides.
Unfortunately it is newcomers who could potentially benefit most from
such guide.

I just took a brief glance at the index of one of the guides (Valkor's):

-Devilsaur Leather, Guardian Stones, Power Crystals.
-Eye of Shadow Farming
-Patch of Elemental Water Fishing in Aszhara
etc. etc.

It's clear to me that the large majority of this guide was written for
over a year ago pre-TBC yet he still charges money for it and makes no
mention of it at his homepage. And yes, I downloaded the latest edition
of Valkor's to make sure this answer was correct (apparently he has
edited it to be up-to-date recently according to his member-page, yet he
still has some of the 'tricks' I listed above).
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