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AlphaWoolf

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:24 am
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"Morning Addition" on NPR Monday had a report on the Chinese
gold-farming industry, primarily related to its existence in WoW:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10165824

Right off the bat the announcer makes reference to online "murder"
related to the gold farming trade, and you know they're offbase. The
report does bring up some factual aspects of the gold farming
industry; I was very surprised to hear that farmers form raids - it
just doesn't seem to be the most profitable use of their time,
especially since raiding is often considered a money sink for regular
players.

Of course the guys running the operations say they're just providing a
needed service. Yep, and drug dealers and prostitutes say the same
thing about their lines of work. It's fair game to say these people
wouldn't exist without someone buying their "product". The article is
100% wrong in saying these activities exist in a "gray area"; in WoW
at least we all know these activities are against the TOS.

The whole racial strife angle seemed to come out of left field to me.
I tell you what, I'm going to dislike gold farmers whether they're
from Cleveland or Canton. This whole aspect of the report appeared to
be the gold farmers' trying to throw up some smoke to draw attention
away from the real issue at hand. At it seems to have worked - the
legitimate complaints that gold farmers inflate virtual economies and
are competition for resources for regular players are only hastily
mentioned at the very end of the report. Now that's some sloppy
reporting.

What I thought was funny was the introduction to the farming center,
and in the background you can hear WoW gunfire going like
firecrackers. They were all hunters!

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Dave - Moderator

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:32 am
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On May 16, 5:24 am, AlphaWoolf
wrote:
> "Morning Addition" on NPR Monday had a report on the Chinese
> gold-farming industry, primarily related to its existence in WoW:
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10165824
>
> Right off the bat the announcer makes reference to online "murder"
> related to the gold farming trade, and you know they're offbase. The
> report does bring up some factual aspects of the gold farming
> industry; I was very surprised to hear that farmers form raids - it
> just doesn't seem to be the most profitable use of their time,
> especially since raiding is often considered a money sink for regular
> players.
>
> Of course the guys running the operations say they're just providing a
> needed service. Yep, and drug dealers and prostitutes say the same
> thing about their lines of work. It's fair game to say these people
> wouldn't exist without someone buying their "product". The article is
> 100% wrong in saying these activities exist in a "gray area"; in WoW
> at least we all know these activities are against the TOS.
>
> The whole racial strife angle seemed to come out of left field to me.
> I tell you what, I'm going to dislike gold farmers whether they're
> from Cleveland or Canton. This whole aspect of the report appeared to
> be the gold farmers' trying to throw up some smoke to draw attention
> away from the real issue at hand. At it seems to have worked - the
> legitimate complaints that gold farmers inflate virtual economies and
> are competition for resources for regular players are only hastily
> mentioned at the very end of the report. Now that's some sloppy
> reporting.
>
> What I thought was funny was the introduction to the farming center,
> and in the background you can hear WoW gunfire going like
> firecrackers. They were all hunters!
>
> ----
> Gnuthulhu, Undead Warlock
> Fthagn, Undead Warrior
> Rhyleya, Troll Hunter
> Wydefoote, Tauren Shaman
> Curwen, Blood Knight
> Thunderhorn,US
> Remove your coat for email.

Interesting piece. Thanks for posting it.

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djarvinen

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 11:09 am
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On May 16, 2:24 am, AlphaWoolf
wrote:

> I tell you what, I'm going to dislike gold farmers whether they're
> from Cleveland or Canton.

Well... what if they were from Akron?
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Eric D. Braden

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 11:17 am
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On May 16, 4:24 am, AlphaWoolf
wrote:
> "Morning Addition" on NPR Monday had a report on the Chinese
> gold-farming industry, primarily related to its existence in WoW:
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10165824
>
> Right off the bat the announcer makes reference to online "murder"
> related to the gold farming trade, and you know they're offbase. The
> report does bring up some factual aspects of the gold farming
> industry; I was very surprised to hear that farmers form raids - it
> just doesn't seem to be the most profitable use of their time,
> especially since raiding is often considered a money sink for regular
> players.
>
> Of course the guys running the operations say they're just providing a
> needed service. Yep, and drug dealers and prostitutes say the same
> thing about their lines of work. It's fair game to say these people
> wouldn't exist without someone buying their "product". The article is
> 100% wrong in saying these activities exist in a "gray area"; in WoW
> at least we all know these activities are against the TOS.
>
> The whole racial strife angle seemed to come out of left field to me.
> I tell you what, I'm going to dislike gold farmers whether they're
> from Cleveland or Canton. This whole aspect of the report appeared to
> be the gold farmers' trying to throw up some smoke to draw attention
> away from the real issue at hand. At it seems to have worked - the
> legitimate complaints that gold farmers inflate virtual economies and
> are competition for resources for regular players are only hastily
> mentioned at the very end of the report. Now that's some sloppy
> reporting.
>
> What I thought was funny was the introduction to the farming center,
> and in the background you can hear WoW gunfire going like
> firecrackers. They were all hunters!
>
> ----
> Gnuthulhu, Undead Warlock
> Fthagn, Undead Warrior
> Rhyleya, Troll Hunter
> Wydefoote, Tauren Shaman
> Curwen, Blood Knight
> Thunderhorn,US
> Remove your coat for email.

It felt like they were framing the xenophobia issue wrong. One could
make a case for xenophobia and racism in some MMOs (see FFXI, JPs were
viewed as godly and NAs as noobs when I was playing), but not in
regards to farmers. The only racism there is that people often
automatically assume they're Asian. Other than that, people don't
like them because of what they're doing, not where they're from.
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danejasho

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:18 pm
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On May 16, 4:24 am, AlphaWoolf
wrote:
> "Morning Addition" on NPR Monday had a report on the Chinese
> gold-farming industry, primarily related to its existence in WoW:
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10165824
>
> Right off the bat the announcer makes reference to online "murder"
> related to the gold farming trade, and you know they're offbase. The
> report does bring up some factual aspects of the gold farming
> industry; I was very surprised to hear that farmers form raids - it
> just doesn't seem to be the most profitable use of their time,
> especially since raiding is often considered a money sink for regular
> players.

Amazing. Their slant is obvious, and there was no mention of it being
against TOS. What a skewed story.
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AlphaWoolf

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:11 pm
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On 16 May 2007 11:09:09 -0700, " "
wrote:

>On May 16, 2:24 am, AlphaWoolf
>wrote:
>
>> I tell you what, I'm going to dislike gold farmers whether they're
>> from Cleveland or Canton.
>
>Well... what if they were from Akron?

Oooooo! Now I can't stand *those* guys!

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:24 pm
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> What I thought was funny was the introduction to the farming center,
> and in the background you can hear WoW gunfire going like
> firecrackers. They were all hunters!

not that i 'listened' to the article
why don't they type stuff out, so can read it in plain text.......
(no speakers at work bleh)

hunters are the best solo class for farmers
also they are normaly female (more likley to get water out of mages)
and the default named pet
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:44 pm
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AlphaWoolf writes:
>industry; I was very surprised to hear that farmers form raids - it
>just doesn't seem to be the most profitable use of their time,
>especially since raiding is often considered a money sink for regular
>players.

I think they mean that they group up in a raid (probably so they can more
easily shout for help when attacked), not that they do PVE raids!

>What I thought was funny was the introduction to the farming center,
>and in the background you can hear WoW gunfire going like
>firecrackers. They were all hunters!

Since hunters can kill things at or below their level effortlessly with
three keystrokes (hunter's mark, send in pet, autoshot. Also macroable to
just ONE key), they're the first choice of farmers and botters. *
--
* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 2:05 pm
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On May 16, 4:24 am, AlphaWoolf
wrote:
> "Morning Addition" on NPR Monday had a report on the Chinese
> gold-farming industry, primarily related to its existence in WoW:
>
> http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10165824
>
> Right off the bat the announcer makes reference to online "murder"
> related to the gold farming trade, and you know they're offbase. The
> report does bring up some factual aspects of the gold farming
> industry; I was very surprised to hear that farmers form raids - it
> just doesn't seem to be the most profitable use of their time,
> especially since raiding is often considered a money sink for regular
> players.
>
> Of course the guys running the operations say they're just providing a
> needed service. Yep, and drug dealers and prostitutes say the same
> thing about their lines of work. It's fair game to say these people
> wouldn't exist without someone buying their "product". The article is
> 100% wrong in saying these activities exist in a "gray area"; in WoW
> at least we all know these activities are against the TOS.
>
> The whole racial strife angle seemed to come out of left field to me.
> I tell you what, I'm going to dislike gold farmers whether they're
> from Cleveland or Canton. This whole aspect of the report appeared to
> be the gold farmers' trying to throw up some smoke to draw attention
> away from the real issue at hand. At it seems to have worked - the
> legitimate complaints that gold farmers inflate virtual economies and
> are competition for resources for regular players are only hastily
> mentioned at the very end of the report. Now that's some sloppy
> reporting.
>
> What I thought was funny was the introduction to the farming center,
> and in the background you can hear WoW gunfire going like
> firecrackers. They were all hunters!
>
> ----
> Gnuthulhu, Undead Warlock
> Fthagn, Undead Warrior
> Rhyleya, Troll Hunter
> Wydefoote, Tauren Shaman
> Curwen, Blood Knight
> Thunderhorn,US
> Remove your coat for email.

There was a listener mail response read on the air this morning.
Pseudo-transcript from memory:

"What if Gary Kasparav bought another queen from another player for
$1000? Would I be anti-Russian for disliking them?"

Flawed analogy, I think, but it kinda works.
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