Farmable patterns in Northrend

On Dec 4, 3:26 pm, Catriona R wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:17:07 -0800 (PST), Behemoth
>
> wrote:
> >On Dec 4, 12:10 pm, PhilHibbs wrote:
> >> Are there any BOP patterns (apart from the silly cooking ones),
> >> particularly mob-specific ones that I can farm? Thottbot and Wowhead
> >> don't have any Alchemy or Blacksmithing patterns at all above 375.
>
> >> Hoofu, 78 tauren shaman, Argent Dawn (EU)
> >> Ognian, 78 troll warrior, Argent Dawn (EU)
>
> >I'm curious as to this as well but looking for Tailoring as well as
> >Alchemy
>
> >I noticed alot of JC patterns are dropping in Storm Peak last night
>
> There's 4 BoP JC ones off random mobs in Storm Peaks (all have 100%
> droprate if you hit the right mobs so not much challenge there) and
> every lvl 80/heroic instance boss has a BoP JC recipe as well. For other
> professions, um... I'm not sure there's *any* dropped recipes.
>
> Can't help but think they went a little overboard on adding new JC cuts,
> as they managed to not give sources for some very useful ones (rare
> spellpower/spirit gem, hello?) but I have already learned several which
> are frankly junk and I really can't see anybody using (crit rating and
> mp5 together, hmm... anybody who wants those stats would just take them
> in combination with spellpower, or perhaps rarely agi if a hunter)
> --
> EU-Draenor:
> Sagart (80 Undead Priest)
> Eilnich (70 Blood Elf Warlock)
> Buinne (70 Troll Shaman)
> Tairbh (70 Tauren Druid)
> Balgair (70 Human Rogue)
> Naomh (70 Draenei Priest)
> Rosad (70 Human Warlock)
> Sealgair (70 Dwarf Hunter)

I recently got a new necklace off the Betrayal questline and replaced
my Shattered Sun Exalted Necklace with that one

noticed that Runed Bloodstone was +!4 and going for 5-8g each for
+14sp and yet noticed other Rarer cuts with almost the same stats but
maybe 1-2 points more for nearly 100g each

seems the uncommon ones are good for just leveling until you get the
Tier 7 gear and such not worth spending the big cash to replace them
every few levels or dungeon drops

JC's market is flooded with cuts though so huge selection there

Alchemy mostly is a few rare pots but most are learned ... not so
intresting

and Tailoring is pretty much just the bags the cloth and the rugs imo
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On Dec 4, 3:36 pm, Behemoth wrote:
> On Dec 4, 3:26 pm, Catriona R wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:17:07 -0800 (PST), Behemoth
>
> > wrote:
> > >On Dec 4, 12:10 pm, PhilHibbs wrote:
> > >> Are there any BOP patterns (apart from the silly cooking ones),
> > >> particularly mob-specific ones that I can farm? Thottbot and Wowhead
> > >> don't have any Alchemy or Blacksmithing patterns at all above 375.
>
> > >> Hoofu, 78 tauren shaman, Argent Dawn (EU)
> > >> Ognian, 78 troll warrior, Argent Dawn (EU)
>
> > >I'm curious as to this as well but looking for Tailoring as well as
> > >Alchemy
>
> > >I noticed alot of JC patterns are dropping in Storm Peak last night
>
> > There's 4 BoP JC ones off random mobs in Storm Peaks (all have 100%
> > droprate if you hit the right mobs so not much challenge there) and
> > every lvl 80/heroic instance boss has a BoP JC recipe as well. For other
> > professions, um... I'm not sure there's *any* dropped recipes.
>
> > Can't help but think they went a little overboard on adding new JC cuts,
> > as they managed to not give sources for some very useful ones (rare
> > spellpower/spirit gem, hello?) but I have already learned several which
> > are frankly junk and I really can't see anybody using (crit rating and
> > mp5 together, hmm... anybody who wants those stats would just take them
> > in combination with spellpower, or perhaps rarely agi if a hunter)
> > --
> > EU-Draenor:
> > Sagart (80 Undead Priest)
> > Eilnich (70 Blood Elf Warlock)
> > Buinne (70 Troll Shaman)
> > Tairbh (70 Tauren Druid)
> > Balgair (70 Human Rogue)
> > Naomh (70 Draenei Priest)
> > Rosad (70 Human Warlock)
> > Sealgair (70 Dwarf Hunter)
>
> I recently got a new necklace off the Betrayal questline and replaced
> my Shattered Sun Exalted Necklace with that one
>
> noticed that Runed Bloodstone was +!4 and going for 5-8g each for
> +14sp and yet noticed other Rarer cuts with almost the same stats but
> maybe 1-2 points more for nearly 100g each
>
> seems the uncommon ones are good for just leveling until you get the
> Tier 7 gear and such not worth spending the big cash to replace them
> every few levels or dungeon drops
>
> JC's market is flooded with cuts though so huge selection there
>
> Alchemy mostly is a few rare pots but most are learned ... not so
> intresting
>
> and Tailoring is pretty much just the bags the cloth and the rugs imo

Tailoring is also getting new leg enchants, as well as cloak
enchants. I'm excited about the cloak enchants, as there were really
no good caster DPS cloak enchants out there before, I always went with
2% threat reduction.
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2008 09:17:07 -0800 (PST), Behemoth
wrote:

>On Dec 4, 12:10 pm, PhilHibbs wrote:
>> Are there any BOP patterns (apart from the silly cooking ones),
>> particularly mob-specific ones that I can farm? Thottbot and Wowhead
>> don't have any Alchemy or Blacksmithing patterns at all above 375.
>>
>> Hoofu, 78 tauren shaman, Argent Dawn (EU)
>> Ognian, 78 troll warrior, Argent Dawn (EU)
>
>I'm curious as to this as well but looking for Tailoring as well as
>Alchemy
>
>I noticed alot of JC patterns are dropping in Storm Peak last night

There's 4 BoP JC ones off random mobs in Storm Peaks (all have 100%
droprate if you hit the right mobs so not much challenge there) and
every lvl 80/heroic instance boss has a BoP JC recipe as well. For other
professions, um... I'm not sure there's *any* dropped recipes.

Can't help but think they went a little overboard on adding new JC cuts,
as they managed to not give sources for some very useful ones (rare
spellpower/spirit gem, hello?) but I have already learned several which
are frankly junk and I really can't see anybody using (crit rating and
mp5 together, hmm... anybody who wants those stats would just take them
in combination with spellpower, or perhaps rarely agi if a hunter)
--
EU-Draenor:
Sagart (80 Undead Priest)
Eilnich (70 Blood Elf Warlock)
Buinne (70 Troll Shaman)
Tairbh (70 Tauren Druid)
Balgair (70 Human Rogue)
Naomh (70 Draenei Priest)
Rosad (70 Human Warlock)
Sealgair (70 Dwarf Hunter)
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PhilHibbs skrev:
> Are there any BOP patterns (apart from the silly cooking ones),
> particularly mob-specific ones that I can farm? Thottbot and Wowhead
> don't have any Alchemy or Blacksmithing patterns at all above 375.

Yes, the resist potions for Northrend drops from various higher level
mobs. Here is the Frost resist potion for instance:

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=44566

Simliar look up the others they are called [Mighty <something>
Protection Potion]

I farmed Frost and Nature tonight and it only took a few minutes total.
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On 4 déc, 18:10, PhilHibbs wrote:
> Are there any BOP patterns (apart from the silly cooking ones),
> particularly mob-specific ones that I can farm? Thottbot and Wowhead
> don't have any Alchemy or Blacksmithing patterns at all above 375.
>
> Hoofu, 78 tauren shaman, Argent Dawn (EU)
> Ognian, 78 troll warrior, Argent Dawn (EU)

I can't stress how GOOD farming for patterns is for levelling
blacksmith.
You can essentially start farming those as soon as you get to
northrend, and once you have these they will take you painlessly from
375 to 420 blacksmith in just the amount of time it takes to buy cheap
cobalt, craft a piece and AH it off for a price comprised between the
cost of the cobalt (roughly 15g/4 bars, or 75g a stack) and the
estimated value of the disenchant (between 30g and 40g per item
depending on server time for the essences and dusts). Buy cheap, sell
reasonable, ding multiple times.

Beyond these four "reinforced cobalt" crafts, I don't think there's
any other BOP blacksmith pattern. I spent a saturday afternoon farming
these patterns. I went to 420 blacksmith, earning ~1500g in the
process, and I'm not even a miner - blacksmith/engineer here
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On 5 Dec, 07:58, Babe Bridou wrote:
> On 4 déc, 18:10, PhilHibbs wrote:
>
> > Are there any BOP patterns (apart from the silly cooking ones),
> > particularly mob-specific ones that I can farm? Thottbot and Wowhead
> > don't have any Alchemy or Blacksmithing patterns at all above 375.
>
> Beyond these four "reinforced cobalt" crafts, I don't think there's
> any other BOP blacksmith pattern. I spent a saturday afternoon farming
> these patterns. I went to 420 blacksmith, earning ~1500g in the
> process, and I'm not even a miner - blacksmith/engineer here

I was happy to find that the first Engineering recipes in Northrend
were available at 350 (or so) skill so I didn't have to spend a lot of
money / time getting Outlands materials to level to 375 first. I hope
that its the same for Leatherworking as I didn't manage to get that to
375 on my Rogue.

steve.kaye
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Babe Bridou wrote:
> Beyond these four "reinforced cobalt" crafts, I don't think there's
> any other BOP blacksmith pattern. I spent a saturday afternoon farming
> these patterns. I went to 420 blacksmith, earning ~1500g in the
> process, and I'm not even a miner - blacksmith/engineer here

Damn, those patterns didn't show up on my Thottbot or Wowhead search.
Where do they drop? It's a bit late now, I'm well past those skill
levels and they cost me a fair amount to get. Well, actually the cost
me nothing, but I could have sold the extra cobalt or saronite that I
used.

Ognian, 78 troll warrior, Argent Dawn (EU)
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On 5 déc, 11:42, PhilHibbs wrote:
> Babe Bridou wrote:
> > Beyond these four "reinforced cobalt" crafts, I don't think there's
> > any other BOP blacksmith pattern. I spent a saturday afternoon farming
> > these patterns. I went to 420 blacksmith, earning ~1500g in the
> > process, and I'm not even a miner - blacksmith/engineer here
>
> Damn, those patterns didn't show up on my Thottbot or Wowhead search.
> Where do they drop? It's a bit late now, I'm well past those skill
> levels and they cost me a fair amount to get. Well, actually the cost
> me nothing, but I could have sold the extra cobalt or saronite that I
> used.

I don't have access to these websites here, but by memory (and because
I farmed like mad for them):
_the chest pattern drops from venture co. excavators in Sholazar
_the helm drops from iron dwarf miners in their city northeastern
Grizzly Hills (in the area that's under constant bombing by giants)
_the leggings drop from Gundrak Savages in northeastern Zul'drak
_the pauldrons drop from Onslaught Masons in eastern Dragonblight

All of these took me ~100 kills (more like 3-400 for the pauldrons),
including mobs that are around and don't drop the patterns, but still
share the same spawn point.
My advice is to kill everything in the zone everytime when you farm it
to keep the numbers fair. Otherwise you'll quickly starve the area of
its "pattern dropping" mobs.
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On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 01:16:22 -0800 (PST), "steve.kaye"
wrote:

>On 5 Dec, 07:58, Babe Bridou wrote:
>> On 4 déc, 18:10, PhilHibbs wrote:
>>
>> > Are there any BOP patterns (apart from the silly cooking ones),
>> > particularly mob-specific ones that I can farm? Thottbot and Wowhead
>> > don't have any Alchemy or Blacksmithing patterns at all above 375.
>>
>> Beyond these four "reinforced cobalt" crafts, I don't think there's
>> any other BOP blacksmith pattern. I spent a saturday afternoon farming
>> these patterns. I went to 420 blacksmith, earning ~1500g in the
>> process, and I'm not even a miner - blacksmith/engineer here
>
>I was happy to find that the first Engineering recipes in Northrend
>were available at 350 (or so) skill so I didn't have to spend a lot of
>money / time getting Outlands materials to level to 375 first. I hope
>that its the same for Leatherworking as I didn't manage to get that to
>375 on my Rogue.

Think it is, certainly my 375 LW had a whole heap of new recipes to
learn and I'm guessing at least some were lower than 375 skill. Seems
every profession has that, which is a good thing as it was always a
right pain getting the last few points to 300 to learn new outland
recipes...and the 350-375 grind was much worse, even more so now when
nobody will be staying in Outland long enough to farm primals.
--
EU-Draenor:
Sagart (80 Undead Priest)
Eilnich (70 Blood Elf Warlock)
Buinne (70 Troll Shaman)
Tairbh (70 Tauren Druid)
Balgair (70 Human Rogue)
Naomh (70 Draenei Priest)
Rosad (70 Human Warlock)
Sealgair (70 Dwarf Hunter)
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Catriona R wrote:
>
> Think it is, certainly my 375 LW had a whole heap of new recipes to
> learn and I'm guessing at least some were lower than 375 skill. Seems
> every profession has that, which is a good thing as it was always a
> right pain getting the last few points to 300 to learn new outland
> recipes...and the 350-375 grind was much worse, even more so now when
> nobody will be staying in Outland long enough to farm primals.

Yes - my 5-boxing team have almost all professions between them (apart
from blacksmithing), and most were stuck at about 350-360 before WotLK
(where it was getting very expensive to level).

I took them all to Northrend and managed to get much cheaper recipes
for taking them past 375 (although things start to get expensive again
when you get past about 410, depending on profession).

Which reminds me - whilst I found all other profession trainers at
Valgarde, I still haven't found an Inscription trainer other
than the one in Dalaran. Is there a trainer somewhere outside Dalaran
where I can learn Inscription past 360?

--
Zil, Level 80 NE Priest, Aman Shan're, Stormrage Europe
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On 05 Dec 2008 11:33:52 GMT, Zil wrote:

>Catriona R wrote:
>>
>> Think it is, certainly my 375 LW had a whole heap of new recipes to
>> learn and I'm guessing at least some were lower than 375 skill. Seems
>> every profession has that, which is a good thing as it was always a
>> right pain getting the last few points to 300 to learn new outland
>> recipes...and the 350-375 grind was much worse, even more so now when
>> nobody will be staying in Outland long enough to farm primals.
>
>Yes - my 5-boxing team have almost all professions between them (apart
>from blacksmithing), and most were stuck at about 350-360 before WotLK
>(where it was getting very expensive to level).
>
>I took them all to Northrend and managed to get much cheaper recipes
>for taking them past 375 (although things start to get expensive again
>when you get past about 410, depending on profession).
>
>Which reminds me - whilst I found all other profession trainers at
>Valgarde, I still haven't found an Inscription trainer other
>than the one in Dalaran. Is there a trainer somewhere outside Dalaran
>where I can learn Inscription past 360?

Hmm can't help with Alliance but there's definitely one in Vengeance
landing for horde so I'd assume Alliance get one too - try putting track
professions on on your inscriber and running around the starting towns a
little - it only shows relevant trainers to you so should just show
secondary profs and your main 2 profs, not everything.
--
EU-Draenor:
Sagart (80 Undead Priest)
Eilnich (70 Blood Elf Warlock)
Buinne (70 Troll Shaman)
Tairbh (70 Tauren Druid)
Balgair (70 Human Rogue)
Naomh (70 Draenei Priest)
Rosad (70 Human Warlock)
Sealgair (70 Dwarf Hunter)
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Catriona R wrote:
> Ouch! Wonder why they made the BS ones have horrible droprates when the
> JC ones all drop first kill :-/

Because Blacksmithing is for tough guys and Jewelcrafting is for
wusses. Makes sense, really, most Horde JCs are Blood Elves and
therefore came over from Alliance to play pretty-boys and therefore
are sissies.

Ognian, 78 ** TROLL ** warrior, Argent Dawn (EU)
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On 5 déc, 14:52, Catriona R wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Dec 2008 04:38:54 -0800 (PST), Babe Bridou
>
>
>
> wrote:
> >On 5 déc, 11:42, PhilHibbs wrote:
> >> Babe Bridou wrote:
> >> > Beyond these four "reinforced cobalt" crafts, I don't think there's
> >> > any other BOP blacksmith pattern. I spent a saturday afternoon farming
> >> > these patterns. I went to 420 blacksmith, earning ~1500g in the
> >> > process, and I'm not even a miner - blacksmith/engineer here
>
> >> Damn, those patterns didn't show up on my Thottbot or Wowhead search.
> >> Where do they drop? It's a bit late now, I'm well past those skill
> >> levels and they cost me a fair amount to get. Well, actually the cost
> >> me nothing, but I could have sold the extra cobalt or saronite that I
> >> used.
>
> >I don't have access to these websites here, but by memory (and because
> >I farmed like mad for them):
> >_the chest pattern drops from venture co. excavators in Sholazar
> >_the helm drops from iron dwarf miners in their city northeastern
> >Grizzly Hills (in the area that's under constant bombing by giants)
> >_the leggings drop from Gundrak Savages in northeastern Zul'drak
> >_the pauldrons drop from Onslaught Masons in eastern Dragonblight
>
> >All of these took me ~100 kills (more like 3-400 for the pauldrons),
> >including mobs that are around and don't drop the patterns, but still
> >share the same spawn point.
> >My advice is to kill everything in the zone everytime when you farm it
> >to keep the numbers fair. Otherwise you'll quickly starve the area of
> >its "pattern dropping" mobs.
>
> Ouch! Wonder why they made the BS ones have horrible droprates when the
> JC ones all drop first kill :-/

These patterns allow the smith to make level 77 greens at an insanely
low price (4 cobalt bars). Like I said, they are a ridiculously good
income source.

The chest sells for a bit more than 7g to vendors, so that means
anytime a stack of cobalt sells at the AH for less than 35g, you're
guaranteed to make money from crafting them. They also disenchant into
much more valuable dusts and essences than the usual "cobalt" items.

The pattern for the chest also turns *yellow* at 420. I can't think of
more powerful levelling recipe in the game, apart from The Mortar:
Reloaded which was bugged for a while and still gave engineering skill-
ups into 375, a hundred levels or so after turning grey.
The other 3 patterns are more of a novelty. You can find a niche for
the "cheap" PVP plate market, like I did, and sell the occasional
leggings, pauldron or headpiece for 60g or so (that's still four times
the price I'm ready to pay for the mats).

To be honest I'm cool with them being a grind to get: they're
incredibly useful, but absolutely not a requirement as it was the case
with TBC jewelcrafting ones or alchemy discoveries.
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